Jackson ashuffled to court in pajamas

[SiteTutor]

Originally Posted by drsbanerji

What if the witnesses are hallucinating or worse? Are we to return to medieval times and burn people at crosses because we 'believe' them to be wrong? Sure I might keep children away from Michael, but what about his rights? And those of you, Master John included, please reflect on why you get such seemingly vicarious delight in the humiliation of one of the most striking Performing Artists of our time?

I am not sure it is all about delight. I hate to see someone go from fame to shame like that. I also know that the general public is sick and tired of dragging this out. People want closure. People want the truth. 10 years ago we didn't get the truth because it was settled out of court. The same thing that enabled Michael to get out of it 10 years ago (fame and money) is now the factor causing this outcry to get him convicted.
He does deserve a fair trial, no doubt about it and I don't disagree with anything you're saying. But I also know that people are sick of it and want something done. If he's innocent, great, but if he's guilty, please: put him away and don't let him out again to give us another 10 years of allegations and justifications following his misconduct with children.

[clasione]

In a way, I agree.... IF he is inocent, which honestly I mus admit, I seriously doubt it, but IF he is innocent then it's ashame what he is going through, but if he is guilty, which is much more likely in my opinion, I hope he goes straight to jail and it's the last we'll have to worry about IF he did it or not.....

Well, we will all know soon...

[drsbanerji]

Originally Posted by SiteTutor

I am not sure it is all about delight. I hate to see someone go from fame to shame like that. I also know that the general public is sick and tired of dragging this out. People want closure. People want the truth. 10 years ago we didn't get the truth because it was settled out of court. The same thing that enabled Michael to get out of it 10 years ago (fame and money) is now the factor causing this outcry to get him convicted.
He does deserve a fair trial, no doubt about it and I don't disagree with anything you're saying. But I also know that people are sick of it and want something done. If he's innocent, great, but if he's guilty, please: put him away and don't let him out again to give us another 10 years of allegations and justifications following his misconduct with children.

I am afraid that there is a basic dichotomy between Truth and Time. You cannot get to the truth in a hurry. History is replete with instances of society believing it knows the truth, only to be proved wrong later.

Please also keep in mind that a settlement out of court is no admission of guilt. I have been party to such transactions, and it could be simply because we do not have the resources and the will to take the fight to its conclusion.

[drsbanerji]

Originally Posted by clasione

In a way, I agree.... IF he is inocent, which honestly I mus admit, I seriously doubt it, but IF he is innocent then it's ashame what he is going through, but if he is guilty, which is much more likely in my opinion, I hope he goes straight to jail and it's the last we'll have to worry about IF he did it or not.....

Well, we will all know soon...

John I honestly believe that you will make a fine juror. Please NEVER sit in on a case with pre-conceived notions about whether a person is guilty or not. I hope for Michael that none of those who have sworn duties to do justice to him, have strong likes or dislikes about him as a person.

[SiteTutor]

I can see a lot of drama ahead of us because honestly: I cannot imagine him being found "not guilty". I am not judging Michael as a person, I think he is sick. But his unwillingness to comply with any rules may also contribute to the jurors' possible desire to put him away. He will not stop hanging out with young boys if he goes free. He is not under the impression that he is doing anything wrong. Allowing him to keep living his life the way he does could enable a lot of child molesters to accuse accusers of wrongfully accusing them. There is a lot at stake here. This is not just about Michael Jackson but a much bigger issue and let's face it: everyone brings his/her own opinions into court cases and that includes every single one of the jurors.

Mike

[dmaster]

So what is the final verdict? guilty or not?

[SiteTutor]

I cannot imagine it being anything but guilty.

[drsbanerji]

Originally Posted by SiteTutor

I can see a lot of drama ahead of us because honestly: I cannot imagine him being found "not guilty". I am not judging Michael as a person, I think he is sick. But his unwillingness to comply with any rules may also contribute to the jurors' possible desire to put him away. He will not stop hanging out with young boys if he goes free. He is not under the impression that he is doing anything wrong. Allowing him to keep living his life the way he does could enable a lot of child molesters to accuse accusers of wrongfully accusing them. There is a lot at stake here. This is not just about Michael Jackson but a much bigger issue and let's face it: everyone brings his/her own opinions into court cases and that includes every single one of the jurors.

Mike

How can we accept a situation in which we believe that Michael is guilty without due process? How are we then different from the barbaric who wield law and order as though it is a personal means of power and assertion?

You should do everything in your power to keep children away from Michael. You can be vigilant to spot molestation, to prevent it and to stop it. Applying jungle law to Michael is no answer or solution.

[SiteTutor]

Originally Posted by drsbanerji

How can we accept a situation in which we believe that Michael is guilty without due process? How are we then different from the barbaric who wield law and order as though it is a personal means of power and assertion?

You should do everything in your power to keep children away from Michael. You can be vigilant to spot molestation, to prevent it and to stop it. Applying jungle law to Michael is no answer or solution.

You know what? You're right. We just need to let the law run its course ...

[drsbanerji]

Originally Posted by SiteTutor

I cannot imagine it being anything but guilty.

Please never serve as a juror with such pre-conceived notions!

What if some of the people who have to decide on Michael's fate, have succeeded in disguising their bias, in an attempt to get on to the jury and 'do him in'?